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to the next presidential election. what was a romney loss by 4 would have been a romney loss by 7. i think that is driving part of this. >> following what michael said, the political ramifications. our first read team factors this into the president's overall list of goals, legislation he would like to see passed. let me read this. first read team says if congress passes immigration reform, this discussion about obama's legislative leadership had look like a silly exercise. he will have health care, financial reform, don't ask don't tell repeal, the fiscal cliff deal and immigration trophies on the wall. yet if immigration does not pass, it will be more than fair to note that obama was unable to navigate a divided congress. your reaction to that. >> i think this is certainly very important to the obama legacy in terms of immigration reform being one of his top priorities, if not the top priority for the second term. but he also has guns that was a failure. an upcoming debt debate. there are still quite a few other things that will be on the, on his plans in terms of how his legacy is actua
, has it really changed? >> it hasn't changed right now because we haven't had an election. what has to happen is one candidate in illinois who went down, she was the first one who went down. >> for the seat once held by jesse jackson jr. >> she was too close to the nra. in 2014, believe me. there are going to be republican members from suburban districts. not from real world districts but suburban districts who are on the wrong side of this issue and should be driven from public office from this immoral stand on this issue. when that happens that will send a very powerful message and in 2015 you will see legislation on this issue. >> i want to read you a portion of heidi heitkamp's statement. in part she said i thought long and hard about this. i've taken the tough meetings. i've heard overwhelmingly from the people of north dakota, and at the end of the day my duty is to listen and republican the people of north dakota, corwin saying the same thing, even though 90% say they support expanded background checks. the reality is we still have a divide. >> four democrats. >> but she was
elected to congress. first i'm sure you've heard the news that dzhokhar tsarnaev has been charged with using weapons of mass destruction in the boston marathon attacks. we're reading through the charges. learning more about what the fbi seized from his room. they described a large pyrotechnic, a black jacket and white cap. the big concern in addition to his brother's ties to any other outside groups, if there are any, is the question about the fbi. that the fbi questioned tamerlan tsarnaev and said that he was not a threat at the time. do you have any concerns with that information? >> well, you know, it is too early for me to second-guess the fbi. i think we need to know more about what they knew. the fact of the matter is that it is good that they contacted him. that wasn't enough to deter him, obviously. but the fact is that before i'm going to say the fbi should have done something different, what i, i'm not prepared to say that yet. there is just not enough information. what i will say is this. we don't know what their motivation was yet. those facts may come clear. there is
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